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Old Mar 31, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52   #1
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Question Which Bar?

for a prot monk:

Mo/Me or Mo/E

Attributes:
Protection Prayers-12+1+1
Divine Favor-12+1

or (for last build):
Protection Prayers-11+2+1
Divine Favor-10+1
Healing Prayers-10+1

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

OR

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Signet of Devotion[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

OR

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Guardian[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

OR

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Gift of Health[/skill][skill]Inspired Hex[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]

pick one and give reasons please. thx.

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Old Mar 31, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #2
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whatever floats your boat really..

id take the first, except for ps id go spirit bond.

tbh id also take out rebirth for holy veil because im not a monk rez fan (even in pve) but many will disagree so.. maybe kick aegis, its nice but really not needed

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Old Mar 31, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06   #3
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The last one because it has GoH and a hex remover, but I'd make a couple changes first.

1. Replace Inspired Hex with Holy Veil.
2. Consider replacing SoA with Sig of Devotion for most PvE areas. I find SoA to be valuable only in a few select areas in PvE while Sig of Devotion is great everywhere.

I'm not a fan of Aegis on this kind of bar (ZB,GoH,etc.) in PvE. The strength of that bar is its ability to be a super strong healer in addition to the prot and utility stuff. It's the "DO-EVERYTHING!" God bar in PvE. You don't even need a second monk in your party a vast majority of the time if you run this bar.

Aegis, however, consumes two slots with GoLE, which means you need to sacrifice two healing and/or utility skills (usually GoH, Sig of Devotion, or Holy Veil). This steers you back toward a prot bar instead of a "do everything" bar, which is perfectly fine as long as you have a second monk/rit/whatever in your group that can heal.
In other words, I AM a fan of Aegis in a pure prot bar, but I just can't find room for it in a ZB/GoH hybrid bar without sacrificing too much healing and/or utility.

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Old Mar 31, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39   #4
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The last one.

The other three don't have GoH; GoLE + Aegis is not that necessary in PvE. I'd switch Dismiss with Mend, Holy Veil for Inspired, and you can keep SoA as an optional slot for a capture sig or Sig of Devotion or something.
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Old Mar 31, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46   #5
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i always found zb to be MORE than enough..goh is just waste of energy really.
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Old Mar 31, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48   #6
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defferentl;y the last 1 with GoH + hex remove, if u ever make a monk bar make sure it has hex/ contional remover. u cant run a monk with migrane / dazed can u

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i always found zb to be MORE than enough..goh is just waste of energy really.
true but its risky w8ing on 50%, and divertion happens soemtimes so RoF, coudl b out i always have it in there as back up tho
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Old Apr 01, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57   #7
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To me they all look fine but the last one is a little better since it has GoH and if they have mass of hexes you can heal them up.You can use one of those or one of these since I am found of it.Take a look at these onesI am not a big fan of mass of hex degen though more like condition.
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Old Apr 01, 2007, 06:06 AM // 06:06   #8
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The last one, but Holy Veil > Inspired Hex.
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Old Apr 01, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54   #9
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the last one, with holy veil too.
i'd keep PS for PvE, SB for PvP
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Old Apr 01, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31   #10
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[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Gift of Health[/skill][skill]Holy Veil[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]
This is for PvE as a lone Hybrid Monk. Has absolutely ZERO energy management. xD

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]
This is for PvE as a Pure Prot monk teamed up with a Pure Heal Monk. ZB can be replaced with Restore Condition and Dismiss with Holy Veil. Has quite nice energy management.

sound good?

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Old Apr 01, 2007, 01:08 PM // 13:08   #11
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have you ever bothered reading what zb does when you say it has absolutely no energy management? also playing smart is ftw :S

and gawd, that avatar, for some reason i knew you were the same annoying person. -_- shouldve stayed banned imo..

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true but its risky w8ing on 50%, and divertion happens soemtimes so RoF, coudl b out i always have it in there as back up tho
afaik theres a single mob in the whole game that uses diversion :? and seeing how this is the pve forum its fine.

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